No one has a devine right to be in any league. The club got what was coming to it, but it's us fans that suffer. Luckily, we're back on track for a slow recovery.
If we don't go up this time I think we'll do it next time. The gap between us and where we were when we were on the never-never has grown even more now, though. That's a long way of though! At am on 07 May , bestchelseasteven wrote: i love watching leeds fail. Made my evening. The Leeds haters can mouth off about us, but the reality is, the more you dislike a team, the more you want a chance to play them - that's why I can't understand say MU fans wanting City relegated, you want to play and beat your rivals.
Let's not run before we can walk though, one step at a time, beat Millwall amendment to the above : I dislike them, but don't want to play then every season: over two legs, then win at Wembley and all Leeds fans with any sort of memory know we're not right good at that!
To Leeds supporters - are you confident that you will go up through the play-offs? Simon Grayson won the League One play-off final in while a Blackpool player and certainly knows what it is all about. What has impressed me the most about Larry so far is his ability to get into the players psyche.
Over recent matches, ER has become a fortress again and the players appear to relish the large attendances and a pitch that allows for their expansive passing game, something that finally bodes well for Wembley fingers crossed we get there. The only area that I think Larry has failed to address is the Goalkeeper. As pointed out by Andy Ritchie, Casper is a vampire afraid of crosses and his distribution, as any devotee of ER will testify, is chronic.
But the alternative, in Lucas, is not any better. It is here that I believe promotion will be won or lost and where my confidence begins to wither. But supporting Leeds is a test of resolve even at the best of times. I sincerely hope Im wrong. An interesting comment Paul about taking the team to see The Dammed United. I took my family to see the film about a month ago and nearing the end, my daughter leaned over to me and asked, Were Leeds really THAT dirty back then?
I had to reply, Yes, they were, but that was the way the game was played then. Great Memories. Worried as many of us may be; we still need to remain somewhat sanguine. Yes we've lost a last two previous play-off finals, but we lost to two strong sides.
Watford were a much better team than us in the championship- they proved that in the final by outplaying us all over the pitch. As for last year, we beat Doncaster once prior to the final and we were lucky on that occasion.
They destroyed us in the final and if it weren't for a solid performance from Casper; we'd have been at least down. I strongly believe that we are just as good if not better than all the other teams in this seasons play-offs and the good thing is we've already shown we can beat them.
Put this into perspective along with the fact that we have a manager who has experience in winning the play-offs; this has got to be worth at least a little more optimism. Let's continue to get behind the team and show some positivity, after all we've found the winning formula and if we don't make it this season we will look at season with the knowledge that we have the right man at the helm and its gonna happen sooner or later. C'mon Leeds!
As per post 41; a decent goalkeeper really is must if we are to get up and do ok in the CCC. Casper cost us the full 3 points at Orient, and just doesn't inspire confidence from set pieces. Lucas is even worse. At GM's last match in charge - the woeful defeat at MK Dons, our defenders wouldn't even pass the ball back to him when it was required. A safe pair of hands wouldn't cost that much. Maybe a 30 somnething ex prem keeper just to see us through.
To answer your question Paul, I think yes we are confident! We are certainly the form team going in and more than a match for anyone else in the playoffs on our day.
Just hope Beckford doesn't go missing like he did in last years final. He must have had the ball 3 times all day. I'm hopefull that this year is ours, third time lucky and all that! If we can make it through to Wembley I reckon we will do it this time, of course we all have those doubts we are Leeds fans!
We've got the support and a good team Even if we have to stay in league 1 another season i'm confident that next year it would be automatic promotion but i'm praying that we win through the play-offs this time round! I pray we go up but although I was gutted last season, this season's been great, better football, atmosphere etc.
So if all does go downhill, I'm sure we can rise from the flames once again. Grayson's having a great season for us. I'd say he's the right man for the job but I've said that for most managers we've had of late!
Up the whites! Larry took you to your best league position in 30 years and when he left said that he wouldnt have left for any team in the same or lower leagues other than the team he supported as a kid.
Larry is doing an amazing job at ER at the moment and I think that all leeds fans have confidence that he is the right man for the job and will eventually take us back to where we want not deserve to be.
I would like to add though that i can understand other clubs dislike for leeds and there fans when you come on boards like this and people mouthing off that we deserve to be in the premiership because we have a large fanbase and good history. Yes, we are a big club in terms of fanbase and history but the club fully deserves to be where it is due to the appalling past management however a club like leeds will always attract good quality players and i feel that with Larry and Ken at the helm good times are on there way back to this club and i can foresee european football again might be a while off however.
I really think that due to the quality of the current squad and the form we are in at the moment this is theseason where we will get a long overdue wembley win. Completely agree about the Hereford game being a turning point. At the end of that game I was convinced we could forget the play-offs - the whole team were really awful. No ideas, no fight, not a clue. One of those nights when you wonder why you bother travelling so far for so little reward.
But since then, the team have worked hard and are now playing with real flair. Quietly confident about the play-offs, even if we are usually rubbish at Wembley and Cardiff finals.
Grayson has always struck me as being a man of great common sense, who has matters very much in perspective and doesn't stress too much when he doesn't need to. He also comes across as the sort of bloke with whom it would be great to have a couple of beers.
I really would not be surprised at all if Leeds do win promotion. And I reckon that next season's Championship is shaping up to be a very tough league indeed. In will drop the three from the Premier League - potentially some really big hitters in there, as well as the teams that fail in the play-offs, and the likes of Ipswich, QPR etc.
I think Graysons is a top manager and perfect for Leeds but Does anyone else think we wouldn't have gone down in the first place had Bates not sacked Kevin Blackwell? He's not exactly done a bad job with Sheff Utd. BognorRock Yes I think you are right.
Blackwell was far more aware of the financial situation that Leeds were in at that time, which he constantly blamed for the teams poor form. It was for practically letting the cat out of the bag that Bates sacked him. The disasterous stewardship of John Carver led the team to the very bottom of the league, which Wise was helpless to do anything about and then the inevitable administration.
However we would have still started the next season with a 15 point deduction and probably been relegated the next season. So all in all we are still where we are supposed to be. Why have we spent a "wholly deserved couple of seasons in League One"? It wasn't the supporters who mismanaged the finances. The guilty parties have long since fled the nest and have chosen to support other teams. The blogger exemplifies predictale anti-Leeds bile at its worst.
Very weak journalism! Very proud to have a good manager and Yorkshire man in control at Elland Road. A capable chairman and a team that I wish, with all the passion that one Leeds fan can have, the very best for the play offs. Come on Leeds! Is "abcisthealphabet" mad? I don't know who he supports, but I'd like to see his club pull 34, fans for a league 1 game against Northampton, with all respect to Northampton! And we're gonna get around 37, for Millwall. We had a higher attendance than about 5 or 6 Premier League games last weekend.
That combined with a great history and we were cheated out of winning more! Come on Larry! One more push and we're only 1 more step away from where we really belong; the Premier League!!!
As a Blackpool man I would like to state what a fantastic job Grayson has done at Leeds in such a short space of time and his play off experience should stand them in good stead over the next few weeks.
Having said that I cannot stand Leeds United so I hope for my own enjoyment they fail in their playoff bid and are destined for another season in League 1. On a positive at least they will still have the nicest stadium! He was the reason they didn't go down in their first season in the Prem.
He was superb and confident and he's only out of the team through Kirkland's excellent performances this season. However, I don't blame him for him going back to his home club If I'd had the chance for that, I'd have done it in a heartbeat. Nor for the work he put in helping us stay in League One, then build on that with promotion. Our club's been in the similar doldrums for over a decade in League One.
And look at that, Leeds are the form team going into the play offs with him at the helm again. Best of luck Leeds, as far as I can tell the bitterness is quite light. Most of us felt like we'd been shot in the heart with the way it went down. Still hurts now if I think about it. I was born in Leeds, lived down south most of my life and life is sooooo cruel.
Marys in Southampton - and blow me down with a feather or words to that effect - Southampton get relegated! The Saints timing is awful. Leeds Promotion is of course more important than li'l ol me being able to watch them. Go boys, go. As a lifelong Leeds fan I'm 50 years old I cannot believe some of the comments relating to Ken Bates. What exactly has this paragon of virtue done for us?
Taken us to our lowest ever league position after almost getting us kicked out of the Football League! In that match his tactical limitations were clearly exposed and he lost the plot completely the following season. For people to suggest that Bates's mate Dennis Wise didn't have enough time to turn things around is ridiculous - he was appointed in October or November - how much time did he need?
I, like all Leeds fans felt that we were being victimised last season with the points but the appeal hearing should have been a real wake up call. We have been lied to and fed a diet of propaganda. It is true that we have no divine right to top level football but it would be nice to think that all football fans - regardless of which club they support - have the right to expect the people running their respective clubs to have their club's best interests at heart.
Somehow that just doesn't seem to have been the case in recent years at Leeds United. Regarding Simon Grayson I have been pleasantly surprised. He seems to have restored the team's confidence and after a shaky start has got them heading into the play offs in great form - well done Mr Grayson, please, please keep it up! I'm glad to see an air of cautious optimism returning to Leeds. Mr Grayson came from a sporting family, his younger brother Paul Grayson was a successful cricketer winning two caps for England and having a steady career at Yorkshire.
Despite this, his professionalism was never called into question; both Eddie Gray and Howard Wilkinson have publically stated this. In stark contrast to his playing time at Leeds, his time at Leicester was one of great success.
He went on to make appearances in his five years there, his success peaking in when Leicester won the League Cup and Grayson won player of the year. He went on to make 64 appearances, scoring two goals. Again he enjoyed a successful first year making 34 appearances but Blackburn struggled and the following season he again lost his place.
He spent the next few years on loan at various clubs including a couple of insignificant Yorkshire rivals Sheffield Wednesday and Bradford City! This proved a great move, Sir Simon made well over a appearances for the Seasiders, captaining the side and getting his first taste of management. His apprenticeship in management began in the season when he mixed his playing duties with managing the reserve team.
He clearly impressed in this new role and when Colin Hendry stepped down as Blackpool manager in November Grayson was given the job of Caretaker manager. For the first league game in the Championship, on August 11 , , Blackpool travelled to Leicester City , with whom Grayson spent the longest period as a player. Blackpool won by a single goal. The run was ended four days later with a draw at Bristol City , but their unbeaten record was extended to thirteen games. In October , he guided Blackpool to the fourth round of the League Cup for the first time in thirty-five years.
Their interest in the competition ended, as Spurs won When players do well at a certain club and are successful then they are linked with other teams and it's the same with managers.
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